Question: Will the Church and the antichrist be on earth at the same time?

Bro. Post-Trib: Yes. There are at least three proofs to support this. First, 1 John 2:18 proves that antichrist and the Church are here together at the same time. Second, Jesus said: "the Gospel of the Kingdom would be preached in all the world and then shall the end come [Mat 24:14]." Jesus predicted in verse 9 that during the time interval of the preaching of the Gospel, that antichrist and Christian-baiting extremists, would persecute the Church prior to the end. This started in Jerusalem with the High Priest and temple cult, who are a type of the antichrist who will rule the world out of Jerusalem in the end time.

Third, those in the first resurrection prove the Church will be here during the reign of terror against the Saints. John writes that the Saints who refused to take the mark of the beast or worship his image, were martyred for their witness of Jesus and believing by the Word of God that he was Messiah and God come in the flesh [Rev. 20:4]. The obvious conclusion is, that if there are Saints killed for the Gospel by the antichrist, then the Church is present in order for the antichrist to kill them.

Question: Is it true that Post-Tribs teach the reason they believe the Church will go through the great perils of the tribulation, is you believe that only by great suffering can the Bride be perfected?

Bro. Post-Trib: This is false! This was started by Clarence Larkin as a way to mock Post-Trib Ministers. True Post-Tribs teach that perfection comes not by the suffering of the Saints, but by the preaching of the Five-Fold Ministry [Eph 4:12]. God has seen fit to count those who believe and live the Apostolic Faith, to have been perfected by the WORD [1 John 2:5]. The Pre-Tribs have circulated the lie in your question against the Post-Tribs, in hopes of making us look silly and the Word of God to appear cruel and harsh, if Saints suffer because they refuse to recant or deny Acts 2:38 and the Apostolic Faith. It is wrong for Ministers to make this false allegation, because it is actually telling a lie, in order to get the fearful to accept the Pre-Trib theory, on the basis of scare tactics and mockery, and not Biblical truth or faith.

Question: Where did the Post-Trib and the Pre-Trib beliefs start?

Bro. Post-Trib: The Post-Trib doctrine of the coming of Christ, comes from the very doctrine of Christ himself. This is found in Matthew 24:29-30. Matthew chapter 24 was given to the Apostles who were at that time the representatives of the New Testament Church. Contrary to the theories of men like Larkin, Ironside, Dehaan, Pentecost, and Scofield, this chapter is not to Israel, it is for the Church. In all of Matthew 24 there is no secret rapture. There is ONE COMING and it is after tribulation. The sufferings the Saints are to experience are not from the wrath of God, but from the wrath of antichrist and those who hate the name of Jesus Christ and the Acts 2:38 Gospel of salvation.

Jesus himself started the Post-Trib doctrine of his second coming. Those who thus teach it, are preaching the true doctrine of Christ. These Ministers have no need to embellish falsehood with types, shadows, and allegories, not used by Christ or his Apostles to describe the end times. Trickery is not truth and theory is not proof. Jewish eschatology (end time study) lately forced into the doctrine of Christ, is not Apostolic doctrine.

The Pre-Trib rapture doctrine is in reality, old Jewish eschatology reinterpreted with a "Christian" slant. The present doctrine was invented around 1830 by John Darby. Darby’s own concoctions were inspired by eschatological theory taken from the Babylonian Jewish restoration doctrine. This was propagated by Jewish Cabalist Emanuel Lacunza, who infiltrated the Catholic Church in the 1700s. His plan was to establish his belief that the long awaited Jewish restoration must occur at the climax of the Christian era just before the Millennial, or there would be NO RESTORATION.

This reinterpretation had for its focus, the idea of Jewish control of the Millennial, and not the Church which will be comprised of "whosoever will." The Church has been restored as the true Israel of God, through the Acts 2:38 plan of salvation. The restoration was switched from GRACE to RACE.

In order for this theory to gain adherents, it was essential to allege that the 70th week of Daniel was not nailed to the Cross, therefore all the Law was not fully abolished and abrogated by the death of Christ. The theory emerged that God the Father refused to allow God the Son to nail all the Law to the Cross, because God the Farther needed the last seven years of the Law dispensation in order to save Israel. The belief was, that the Jews could reject Christ and be saved without his "illegitimate" blood, and INSTEAD, be reconciled by a new temple, the sacrifice of a red heifer, and God’s faithfulness.

The belief was that God the Father would hate the antichrist [the Pope], for stopping these "substitute for Christ" sacrifices, because it would mean that Jews would be stopped from practicing the Law. All the rest of the theories supporting the Pre-Trib rapture theory hinge on these false teachings. The Pre-Trib doctrine is error because the premise that all the Law but seven years was nailed to the Cross, is false. To allege that the blood of Christ is profane [bastard blood, born of fornication], and not good enough to save Jews, is a heresy of itself. Therefore, the Pre-Trib theory that the Church will end in defeat with no revival, and be quick-snatched in a secret rapture, is false. The belief that God will then turn back to Israel for seven years, or the 70th week of the remaining Law, IS ANTICHRIST DOCTRINE. The Pre-Trib use of reinterpreted Jewish restoration eschatology, is error. It is not the doctrine of Christ.

Question: Is the Babylonian Talmud a holy book that Apostolics should place confidence in?

Bro. Post-Trib: No, the Talmud is not a holy book. The last holy book inspired by God for Old Testament purposes was Malachi. Afterward, for nearly 400 years, God did not speak to the Jews by a Prophet. The first Prophet God spoke through after this period of silence, because of his anger at Jewish Babylonianism, was John the Baptist. Even his rebuke of "Vipers and Serpents," indicates not John’s spirit, but that of the heavenly Father toward Mystery Babylon hiding within the Temple hierarchy.

The New Testament books were God’s last WILL and TESTAMENT. The Babylonian Talmud by its very name identifies it as a collection of writings steeped in Babylonian heresy. By its own contents against Christ and Christians, it is antichrist. Those who compiled its contents and wrote its vast collection of commentary, laws, hatred of Christ, and judicial decisions, were not holy men. They were occultists who practiced a form of witchcraft called Cabalism, which is a Jewish reinterpretation of Babylonian Pantheism. It is error and blasphemy to suggest that men void of the Holy Ghost and Acts 2:38 salvation, could create a new holy book that denies the New Testament and the Covenant of Calvary.

No, the Babylonian Talmud is not a holy book. It is instead a manual of the oral "traditions of the elders" of Mystery Babylon, that has been used against the Church since the first century. Those who reject its validity and its supreme authority over Christ and the New Testament, will soon be persecuted and some will be put to death. It is a scriptural fact that Saints will be put to death for the Word of God [the New Testament, Rev. 20:4]. So in order for Saints to be forced to reject the true WORD OF GOD or be put to death, there must be another alleged "holy book" by which the New Testament is condemned.

True Post Tribs believe the Babylonian Talmud and/or portions thereof [Noahide Laws], will be forced on the world. The Talmud is therefore rejected as unholy. [][][][]